In AEWCH 13, I hang out with one of my favorite punks, Mish Barber-Way, singer/screamer of White Lung. White Lung is intense, loud, metal-meets-punk, and they’re truly awesome. (Rolling Stone named White Lung’s album, Deep Fantasy, one of the 40 Greatest Punk Albums of All Time.) So I made sure to ask Mish to play a couple songs, too, even though she’s used to playing MUCH much louder. There are acoustic versions of “Paradise” at 57:55 and “Stand By Your Man” by Tammy Wynette: 1:17:40
IN THIS EPISODE
- Mish’s sordid, awesome past and present in the adult industry: 2:45
- Who gets screwed up by being in porn and who does well and why?: 5:10
- Strategies for public performances. Of all kinds.: 7:15
- Radiating sexuality: 10:20
- Our apocalypse survival strategies and the Amish at the end of the world: 13:15
- How screaming gets you ignored in music, especially if you’re a woman, and why to do it anyway, and what Wilhelm Reich has to do with it: 23:00
- Arousal and desire are not the same thing: 36:05
- The missing language of gray area sexual encounters, and why we’re drawn to simple language, even though it doesn’t help us: 46:35
- The complicated relationships that can frame assault: 51:05
- Mish talks about White Lung’s song, “Paradise”: 54:40
- Mish plays an acoustic version of “Paradise”: 57:55
- Once you get what you want you can’t want it: 1:00:50
- Why danger matters: 1:03:15
- Mish plays “Stand By Your Man” by Tammy Wynette: 1:16:45
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Conner Habib 
Desire is an obstacle best run on half a tank. So enjoy the obstacle. And read Todd McGowan’s “Capitalism and Desire”, which explores the themes addressed at the end of the discussion.