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Friends,
In a world where everything is changing, we don’t get to simply resist the bad, we also have to re-articulate the good. Things we take for granted like human rights, taking an interest in one another, and even the interest in beauty and art, are no longer self-evident foundations of the human experience. We need to express again, but differently, the ethical scaffolding around our moral lives.

I gave my own thoughts on this in my episode series A NEW SPIRITUAL SOCIETY (AEWCH 317 – 320 – you can find links to all in the show notes for the final episode of the series here). Now, some critical responses and engagements are coming in, and I am so thankful for them.

The first of those replies comes in the form of a conversation in this episode, with JOSHUA RIVERS, poet and host of BUSY BEING BLACK podcast; and with SHULI BRANSON, author of Practical Anarchism: A Guide for Daily Life; the co-editor of Surviving the Future: Abolitionist Queer Strategies, host of the podcast THE BREAKUP THEORY podcast, and translator of Guy Hocquenghem’s Gay Liberation After May ’68.

The last time Shuli was on the show was a conversation with a third person, too, with Dean Spade on AEWCH 277 thinking through how to think bigger than the state. On that episode, we each brought a question for the other two guests, and we do that again – but this time prompted by Josh.

These are the questions:

JOSHUA: How do you care for what you love?
CONNER: If you let go of the set of capitalism vs communism (or socialism) what’s left in your view of how to change the world?
SHULI: How do you open things up so that you have a new and altered view?

These questions arose organically, not by plan, emerging from a wide-ranging conversation about poetry, occultists, revolutionaries, and writers.

I’d love to know what your answers are, and what thoughts came from listening to ours.

I hope you love this episode.

Thank you,
CH